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Reflections on VSM

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Reflections on VSM

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Reflections on VSM

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Dec 5, 2017
Bhuvaneshwar Joshi posted a blog post

Cybernetic Identity of People residing in a Nation

Generally in the past, the identity of people residing in a country is symbolized by the language they speak or the religion they follow.  However, in the modern times people that speak different languages and follow different religion live together to form a nation-having a national flag, national anthem, constitution and usually one official language. Countries that follow some form of democracy run into a problem relating to their civil rights, such as, freedom to practice their…See More
Dec 5, 2017
Arsenij Krasikov commented on Bhuvaneshwar Joshi's blog post CAN NATIONS BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS ORGANIZATION ?
"Sounds correct"
Feb 26, 2017
Bhuvaneshwar Joshi posted a blog post


It is tempting to as to why can’t a successful CEO of a giant corporation? Certainly yes, anything is possible but in all likelihood he may not be able to run the nation a as successfully. While it is true that both a business organization and a nation are human organizations-although in cybernetic terms,   nation is many fold more complex than a business organization.  Apart from this similarity, there are much dissimilarity between the two.1.       A business organization has a very focused…See More
Feb 26, 2017

A problem

Hello all!

I suggest that most of you know from "Heart of the Enterprise" that the cornerstone of VSM is variety management.

But how to define this variety is still out of my knowledge. Stafford Beer as I know clearly defines only minimum variety level as actuality, capability and potentiality. Is it enough for management, is it enough for a system as whole? How to check it without crisis?

If you know more about variety, how to define necessary variety or what should be controlled in obligatory manner, please share it in Variety analysis and management discussion

Preliminary answer - Variety is what system see. But there should be already done somehow formalised agreement between different viewers (systems) and viewpoints based on their experience in different contexts. Do you known anything about?
Всем привет!

Я думаю, что многие из вас читали "Сердце предприятия" и увидели, что управление разнообразием есть суть жизнеспособной системы.

Но как определить тот необходимый уровень разнообразия все еще открытый вопрос для меня. Конечно, Стаффорд Бир определил три важнейших индекса: actuality, capability и potentiality. Но достаточно ли этого для управления, для всей системы в целом?

Если есть мысли о разнообразии, как определить этот уровень, что должно контроллироваться системой в обязательном порядке, пожалуйста поделитесь в конференции Variety analysis and management.

Предварительным ответом можно считать, что разнообразие определяется самой системой, но должен быть накопленный и хотя бы немного формализованный опыт оценки разнообразия в различных контекстах.


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ВЭБ-семинар по ОГАС !

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